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Post by trux27 on Oct 2, 2005 19:35:00 GMT -5
There was a person on the ice today at Siskin vs Greys game that had red bands around his arms but please never mistake him for a referee. Schmidt is his name and although everyoneknows how bad ref he is but he confirmed that in a big way today. He was absolutely awful for both teams. It was worse game ive seen in 3 years and all because of him. Im trying to cmment without swearing but is hard considering how pathetic this guy really is. Now ive seen worst linesman last week " LONG " and now i have seen worst ref by far " SCHMIDT".I am at a loss for words just how bad this guy was and OS and Waterloo would agree with me.he should never be allowed to step on the ice again.
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Post by trick on Oct 2, 2005 22:40:34 GMT -5
agreed, this man was and has consistantly been terrible. this man is so unfit for the job that he would not even talk to the coaches after he called a penalty. several times players were sent to retrieve him and he would not come over. after the periods, he would stand behind the net and wait for everyone to leave. he would wait until he could not see them from the ice. it was a disgraceful game. the officiating by schimdt is terrible. and the league must do something about it
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Post by swchmidt on Oct 3, 2005 9:58:39 GMT -5
I'm from os and I totally agree. It's not just the penalties on the greys. The calls on the siskins were just as bad. Phantom calls on 5 on 3's and a waterloo player kicked out for a phantom stick. There was no flow to the game. It wasn't even a rough game but if either one of the teams had really capitalized on the pp the frustration could have led to things getting out of hand. This guy is incompetent and a danger to players on the ice. He kicked a coach out but everyone in the arena could see that the trainer was the one yelling. He has no idea what is going on.
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Post by guest on Nov 2, 2005 22:48:07 GMT -5
Ingalls= brutal.... couldnt ref minor peewee....waterloo and elmira's game proved he may as well call the game from the parking lot
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Post by chief on Nov 2, 2005 23:32:45 GMT -5
he is f*cking terrible
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Post by guest on Nov 3, 2005 0:25:16 GMT -5
how about that game between brantford and cambridge... there was alot of PP and there was even too much 3 on 3 and 4 on 4, it was rediculous, EVERYTHING got called!
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Post by refs on Nov 10, 2005 19:27:15 GMT -5
???scmidtz and beaty are the two worst referees ive ever seen in my life!
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Post by guest on Nov 22, 2005 22:47:53 GMT -5
I was witness to the worst reffing I've ever seen in 20 years of Hockey .....Fagan lost total control in Kitchener tonight.. if my son were playing and got hurt I believe I would have a great case in court against the ref for complete incompetence. this guy would have trouble with the Timbits and his linemen Curly and Moe were not much better. I hope the league takes a look at this travesty and suspends this ref before someone gets hurt. I wish him well in his day job because he should give up his night job
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Post by My name is on Nov 23, 2005 16:48:02 GMT -5
Are there any decent refs in this league?
Sounds like Fagan royally screwed up last night. I have never seen Schmidt call a good game. Kerwin seems to call a game like he's in the "O". Heard Moggey made a huge mistake in Guelph on Saturday haveing the puck dropped during a time out. The list could go on and on and on...
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Post by Kerry Frasers Hair on Nov 23, 2005 17:27:25 GMT -5
Unfortunately there seems to be no accountability in the OHA for poor decisions by the officials. Time and again fans bear witness to inconsistent calls and non calls, even when they occur in what appears to be the direct line of sight. It's frustrating for the players and opens them up to criticism from fans on a nightly basis. In a league that appears to be struggling from a lack of marquee players this season, as a matter of fact probably the last couple of seasons, it's time for the league to make refs accountable through suspensions and fines. Call the game, allow the skill in this league to show. Players will flourish and fans will appreciate a better quality game.
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Post by cwh on Nov 23, 2005 18:35:38 GMT -5
on friday, guelph did not call a timeout they just stayed at their bench without signaling to ref and so he gave the liney the go ahead to drop the puck.
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Post by guest on Nov 24, 2005 18:13:37 GMT -5
linesman admitted to coaching staff after the game that he seen the coaching staff calling a time out. he didnt do anything about it, a damn shame that the refs, the teams, and everyone involved that night was embarassed. especially by a very good person in blake moggy.
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Post by Guest on Nov 24, 2005 21:14:15 GMT -5
Buddy Cambridge woulda won no matter what. The only thing that goal helped was Watson getting him another easy goal. It had no effect on the game, Guelph hasn't beaten Cambridge all year it woulda meant nothing.
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Post by guest on Nov 25, 2005 20:46:08 GMT -5
no where in the response above did i say it effected the game, but now that you mention it "buddy" Guelph was going on the powerplay with over 3 minutes to play. its never over until your mother (fat lady) sings.
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Post by guest on Nov 25, 2005 21:24:34 GMT -5
to add to that above statement, my comment about your mother was not called for and i apologize the original point that was trying to be made was that it was an embarrassing move by the referee to the whole league
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Post by DA on Nov 25, 2005 23:29:20 GMT -5
In tonight's game between Listowel & the Siskins, Crawford's effort was absolutely a disgrace to hockey. Allowing the game to get out of control because of non-calls & then going on his power kick by handing out suspension after suspension was totally embarassing to the game of hockey. The only suspension that should have been handed out was to himself & his partners for travesty of the game. Listowel now go into Elmira without 3 of their 6 defence for one reason. Poor officiating. It's been stated before by others, we need a new crop of refs. I know it's a thankless job, but this was pathetic tonight. Enough said.
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Post by ohahfan99 on Dec 1, 2005 13:30:25 GMT -5
All you guys ever do is bit*h about the equilty of the officiating in the league. As a player I think it's not all that bad. I ref minor hockey on the side and I can tell you that they are doing a great job from a fellow official side as well as a players side. Lets start seeing some positive posts about the refs from last nights games. It's so easy to talk the talk!
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Post by hockeyeyes on Dec 1, 2005 18:04:07 GMT -5
::)rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!! aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahh!!!!ooooooooooooooooooooooooooohhh!!! Ok I tried, I cant make myself say a single nice thing about jr hockey officiating. Oh wait,, I like their striped shirts. OK??
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Post by Kerry Frasers Hair on Dec 12, 2005 17:21:05 GMT -5
2/3 of the season has been completed and the officiating has not improved. The league must address this issue now. Teams are taking serious liberties out there especially with the stick work and interference. 1/2 shields seem to have added to the problem as players appear to be carrying their sticks higher. There is no respect out there. Refs are responsible for game management and control and the bottom line is they are doing a very poor job.
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Post by good ref on Dec 12, 2005 19:31:02 GMT -5
Well i have seen a very well officiated game in the B loop sunday. In siskins vs orangeville game i saw probably the best officiated game ive seen in few years. It was refereed by a guy i have hardly seen before. His name was " Fuller". He and his linesamn were excellent. Called what needed to be called and let the cheesey stuff go. I was impressed and woul dlike to see this guy ref more often to see if he is always consistent or that was a rare well reffed game.
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Post by red kelly on Dec 13, 2005 0:54:20 GMT -5
very rare from this guy. always inconsistent. the 2 moons must have been aligned if he did a good job.
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Post by DA on Jan 13, 2006 23:53:54 GMT -5
What I witnessed tonight in Listowel was an absolute embarassment & disgrace to the game of hockey. A 2-2 game with approx 3 1/2 minutes to play in the 1st period & the referee,Stubbs, started tossing the Cyclones as if they were salad. Already shorthanded, he decided to toss out Cody Hamilton for a minor retalitation to a push after the whistle. Shortly after that, a small tap on the shin pads earned Derek Skinner, a 5 minute major for slashing & another strong defenceman is gone for the game. But why stop there, when questioned by coach Williams, Mr. Stubbs decides to toss him also. In the remaining minutes of the period, Stubbs handily, had gift wrapped the game for the Winterhawks with 4 straight goals, giving them a 6-2 lead. Cambridge I believe also knew how pathetic Stubbs' officiating was & their enthusiasm also declined. Considering how bad Stubbs was though, I give the Cyclones a huge amount of credit for continuing to play hard. Winterhawks ended up with a 9-5 victory with 1 empty netter & did their jobs. Great power play. If only Stubbs had done his, this could have been a fantastic game. Ah, such is life with the officiating thus far in the Midwestern Jr. B. league. All I ask for is some consistency & some equality in the calls. Sure, Stubbs did even up a few 2 minute penalties & count a goal that wasn't in, but just call the game in front of you. I wouldn't want the job.... but if you do....then call the game properly. Everyone in the rink knew how bad it was tonight. Both sets of fans. Good night.
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Post by Hockey Fanatic on Jan 14, 2006 0:11:34 GMT -5
wow, sounds pretty bad to me!! According to the boxscores on the Mid-west website, Cambridge had 6 powerplay goals!! How many of those goals on the powerplay were actually true penalties?? It's sad really. This could have been a good game last night with Cambridge & Listowel. However, it sounds as if the ref thought he should have been the *star* of the game!
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Post by Numbers on Jan 14, 2006 7:37:34 GMT -5
Well let's just hope that the return game in Cambridge tonite can be played and referreed the way hockey at this level should be played. There has to be a few good or acceptable refs somewhere in Ontario.
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Post by DA on Jan 20, 2006 23:47:34 GMT -5
Derek Bridgeman referreed tonight's game Cyclones vs. Sugarkings & I thought he did a great job. Unlike Stubbs last week, Bridgeman understands that the evening is not about him, but is about the game itself & the players. Very unbiased effort & I understand that he did a good job on Sunday Cyclones vs.Siskins. A pleasant surprise in this season of extremely poor officiating.
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Post by Kerry Frasers Hair on Jan 22, 2006 1:49:40 GMT -5
Schmidt which is German for S**T did the game in Brantford tonight. Bottom line he was terrible. Wouldn't know a stick infraction if it hit him the face. Too much holding and hooking through the neutral zone that wasn't called. When is this league going to wake up and instruct the refs to call the game to allow the few quality players in it to show their stuff. It's rapidly slipping.
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Post by Guest on Mar 1, 2006 16:29:32 GMT -5
Listowel fans seem to be blaming Steen for their last two losses.
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Post by Numbers on Mar 1, 2006 18:05:29 GMT -5
Listowel fans seem to be blaming Steen for their last two losses. It's pretty tough or petty to blame anyone for an overtime lose. It's hard for anyone to either officiate, coach, or play 60 minutes of blameless hockey, let alone overtime.
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Post by da on Mar 2, 2006 7:57:22 GMT -5
Mr. Full Member: I don't think blame is the word, it's more like a contibuting factor. I'm sure you've been at the games & know what we're talking about. Some of these calls are quite obvious & some are not. Consistency both ways is all we ask for. Nothing more.
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